Ron and Chakahier: Consultation with Inga Gentile, Certified Clinical Psychologist and MFT

A NOTE FROM JASON:

Hi there. Time to get going on another leg of this season-long journey into “How does a couples therapist learn to do that?” I'm Jason Brand, this podcast is called Human Nurture and in this episode, I've got another wonderful PACT therapist along for the ride. My colleague Inga Gentile joins us from Oslo, Norway. Inga is a licensed MFT and a Licensed Clinical Psychologist. She's an original PACT faculty member and she's been studying with Stan Tatkin since the days of the original Calabasas study group.

Inga joins me to think about the second couple of the season, Ron and Chakahier. If you don't know, here you go… Married 33 years, their presenting challenge was that they drifted apart. In the first and second interviews, they ventured into this drift and found so much for us to discuss.

Inga and I start off talking about the mismanagement of Thirds and work our way towards a beautiful idea about how the drift has created a sense of timelessness between Ron and Chakahier and this means that at any moment, they can find each other again. 

Each consultant has given me a way of holding the PACT frame and I love Inga’s frame. She describes how close proximity triggers psychobiological reflexes, and this gives the information we need to do “Both/And”, showing what is between the couple and seeing what is possible for the couple. I'm getting excited thinking about my consultation with Inga, but enough telling, you can simply click play on the interview.